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  • BharatPremi
    12-14 12:11 PM
    "The SC concluded that the statutory discrimination within the class of aliens is permissible."

    This could justify difference in say EB1, EB2 and EB3 or F visa, H Visa and L visa. How ever there is no mention that discrimination could be on the basis of sex/race/country of origin etc. IMHO an extension of standard EEO laws should be applied for EB class immigration too.

    NB: I am an HR consultant and an expert on EEO laws, I still think that this discussion is worth taking to a top constitutional attorney. An hour of his time will cost peanuts compared to what we can possibly get out of this.

    With agreeing the central theme represented by Mark, still I am incliened to say "Yay" to your suggestion.





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  • RattuRani
    06-10 09:29 PM
    Don't think of it as punishment. The US wants to allow a certain number of people to immigrate each year. The demand far outstrips the supply. That's where the problem is.

    There are two ways to address this:

    Increase the supply
    Decrease the demand


    Those are the only two ways. One option would be to go for a points based system that awards the limited visas to those with the best qualifications or where the need is greatest. After all the US is in a "buyer's market" and can pick and choose those immigrants that add most to the country.

    The other option (which is at present politically infeasible) is to increase the annual immigrant quotas. Tough to support this in a recession with 10% unemployment.

    I'm not sure you can characterize this as unfair... ultimately it is left to the US to determine how many people they want immigrating.





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  • hpandey
    12-19 03:29 PM
    Now on the main page of yahoo finance. They are proposing the same thing that IV is - To give immigrants chance to buy houses

    http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/149374/Housing-Cure-Give-Us-Your-Skilled-Your-Educated-Your-Bundled-Mortgages?tickers=%5Edji,%5Egspc,XHB,TLT,TOL,DHI,P HM

    This can be really good point for use by IV since it has caught the attention of mainstream media now . Available at finance.yahoo.com



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  • _TrueFacts
    09-05 03:27 AM
    It seems like YSR was a very evil man. We must celebrate now that he has died.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    Just as we celebrate Ravana's death with sweets and lights. Good riddance ... good for AP.





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  • chanduv23
    07-04 11:21 AM
    DEAR MEMBERS - I JUST SPOKE TO SERTASHEEP AND THE FOLLOWING WAS DISCUSSED.

    We are still working on the proper approach and text that must be used to address this issue - folks like Macaca and gang are doing a great job.

    That said - please be careful in the language you use. Let us not bad mouth the agencies and keep cheast beating - remember such a thing will work against us. We are benefeciaries and we must only focus on our issues and also convey the message in a positive way.

    In external discussion forums - do not get offensive with anyone who tries to oppose us. These things work against us.

    REMEMBER, WHAT DRIVES PEOPLE IS NOT REALITY BUT PERCEPTION. WE CAN SHOW ALL DATA AND RECORDS THAT WE ARE RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG, BUT THEY ARE DRIVEN ONLY BY PERCEPTION.

    If any of you plan to post any external messages or discuss externally or communicate with law makers, media or other websites or even your friends are planning to do it - please run it through Macaca and other forum gurus.

    Have a great holiday - today.



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  • gondalguru
    07-15 11:09 PM
    Some one has done a very good analysis in this thread.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4285&page=107

    Here is copy and paste of the post by gcobessesed

    ----------------------------------

    Reading this post and the Ron Gotcher numbers, I see some answers for the pending India backlog number question and a silver lining for EB2.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drirshad View Post
    (Quoting Ron Gotcher) The CIS backlog does not appear to be as serious as I had been told previously. Rather than 600,000 pending employment based AOS cases, it is likely less than 400,000 pending cases.
    Quote:
    Indian applicants make up approximately 40 to 45 per cent of the entire employment based quota backlog
    Therefore, about 160,000 applications are pending for India!

    As we have seen before, EB3 and EB2 are almost the same proportion for India with EB3 being slightly higher. So, about 85,000 for EB3 and 75,000 for EB2 are pending.

    Quote:
    Mr. Oppenheim explained that while the Visa Office initially took the view that visa numbers had to fall down into employment third preference before the could fall across to the individual country quotas, but after further review, additional legislation, and consultation with Congress, they concluded that they have to allocate the fall across within individual preference petitions first.
    This means, EB2 will get all unused EB1 visas and EB3 will only get 1/3 of the total 140,000 employment based visas (and 7% per country) until EB2 becomes current.

    Also, because 40-45% of the applications are from India, we can assume 40% of the yearly EB1+EB2 *may* be applied to EB2 India. i.e. approximately 35,000 visas per year for India EB2!!!

    Putting this in perspective with the pending 75,000 EB2 India applications, we should see all of them approved in the next 3 years. i.e. If your EB2 India priority date is in early 2007, then your I-485 will be approved by 2011, which is fantastic!

    If you assume a uniform distribution of applications between Apr 2004 and Apr 2007 (say), it is straightforward to calculate when your date might become current in the next 3 years.

    So, according to this, the cut-off date for EB2 India should move towards end of 2004 in the Oct/Nov bulletin. If that happens, then the above argument will be validated.
    __________________


    I am very confident that EB-2 india will become current in about 14-18 months.





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  • somegchuh
    10-17 02:20 PM
    I wouldn't worry too much about getting a job offer before getting there. In fact I would suggest take your time to relax/look for jobs/business opportunities when you get there. You will be a PR and will have plenty of opportunities if you are not in a field requiring a license. In fact, the best part about being a PR is the doors it opens. Consider whatever interests you and makes good money!
    I know several ppl who have landed in Canada and switched fields.

    I am finally moving to canada in 2-3 months. Deadline for landing is March 3rd 2007.

    I am done with US Green Card and can not take this stress any more. Starting to sell my house and other stuff soon.



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  • abhijitp
    07-03 05:04 PM
    As far as past IV threads, here is one and I am sure Pappu knows it as he has posted lots of links there:
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=694&page=8

    A list of contacts for Public radio/TV such as NPR and PBS:
    http://www.npr.org/contact/

    Here is another... and this makes me think we should look for media contacts at other pro as well as anti-immigration websites.

    http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm

    Here is one more:
    http://www.webcom.com/~leavitt/medialist.html





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  • arunmohan
    10-09 04:07 PM
    Group:

    Please send this letter, It is just 5 minutes job. We should add US Secretary of the Treasury, Mr Henry Paulson.

    I think we should send a hard copy too, If you send a hard copy of the letter, you receive the response for sure.

    They should give us a condtional GC that if you buy a house in a year then your conditional GC would be a permanent otherwise it will be rejected after one year.



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  • El_Guapo
    01-14 01:59 PM
    LOL.....I see where this is headed. We will all post on these threads and whine and complain, just like we do with the visa bulletin. And then in about a week's time, it will all die and no one will bother about this memo. We will "accept" whatever is offered to us. But I am sure within the next week, you can see 10 different threads with people talking about stuff such as "Gandhigiri", "Flower" campaign, "Hunger Strike", "Lawsuit", "Email Campaign", "Letter Campaign", "Phone Campaign", etc.....Don't worry, nothing will materialize and all these will die down. We as Immigrants have learned to accept everything and never fight back :)





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  • samay
    07-14 06:51 AM
    How should one answer Immigration Officer at POE "Are you working for your GC sponsoring Employer?" in case one has used AC-21 and moved to a same or similar job position in other company.

    It is best to carry your AC21 paperwork and tell them that you have invoked AC-21.



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  • akred
    06-12 12:04 PM
    Now to prove my point that we had all of today's similar issues then. Here is my after GC post.

    http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=84252

    I hope you people wouldn't simply jump to a conclusion that I was lucky. I went through all the travails of layoffs, GC backlogs etc.

    Peace !!

    You benefited from ISN (IV predecessor)'s efforts to get AC21 passed with a visa recapture. That visa recapture lifted the retrogression that had set in by 2000. Without that recapture (worth 100K+ visas) it is doubtful your PD would be current today.





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  • grupak
    12-14 04:48 PM
    Simple. If it wasn't for that ceiling the vast majority of the visas will go to applicants from the oversubscribed countries. Now this is not a bad thing if the visas are in unlimited supply. But since that's not the case, the country ceiling ensures that even people from smaller nations will get an equal oportunity to claim a visa before all the visa are grabbed by their BIG brothers and sisters. And what's more what ever is left is given back to the oversubscribed countries.

    How can you call that unfair? Is it fair to deprive a person from a smaller country, equal chance to have go at his GC?


    In the current situation, removing the country limit is not a solution because almost everyone is backlogged. On the other hand increasing the total number of GC even by a factor of 2 might not be the solution either because countries like China, India, Mexico and Philippines will likely still be backlogged.

    IV is for everyone. Its not just for Indians only, and that is what I believe in. To help everyone, IV is pushing both increasing the total number and also increasing the per country limit. As I explained both of these have to go together otherwise it does not help.



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  • it is ok
    09-23 12:19 PM
    Kudos to person who started this thread. A Brilliant Idea..Minimally, even if it helps few hundred people in couple of years, this is more than worth. I will send mails. Thanks for your untiring efforts in the face of adversity..





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  • dilipcr
    06-11 05:11 PM
    To be honest, I do agree that the US needs qualified people with skillsets. The real question is "Are the people from the desi consulting companies the real qualified lot ? " Just to get my background details out of the way. I am a new member, from India ofcourse, and I have recently applied for my citizenship. Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. Staffing companies to a decent extent followed rules and tried to get the best and the brightest. Once the dot com boom started, people from all walks of life entered IT. This was true of not just the Indians but also of people in the US. Soon after the bust, the value proposition from these staffing companies was simply low cost. This is not to blame the staffing companies. They behaved in an economically rational way.

    Consider this scenario. If you run a consulting company, wouldn't you try to maximize your profits by staffing people in projects at the least cost ? This is econmically rational. You wouldn't worry much about the quality of the deliverables and all you would care is to dump as many bodies as possible at the client site or offshore and get the maximum bang for the buck.

    In this scenario, how is it feasible to expect immigrational justice when the bodies themselves dont provide exceptional talent and skills but simply offer low cost ? Now you would be tempted to bring in the analogous case of illegal low skilled immigrants. Remember they are just that - low skilled workers. They dont "steal" the jobs of high skilled workers. But this dumping of IT workforce has completely brought down the standard of living of the IT workers here. To be honest, those who get green cards today would feel the same way five years from now when the next wave of so called "skilled IT immigrants" offer even lower wages and destroy the quality of life.

    In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in. Only the weak are currently scared of the delays. I went through the same torrid GC phase after the tech meltdown in 2001. I was not worried of my job then but many people whom I knew got clobbered and were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. Trust me this the bitter truth. If you people still consider that all the people on H1/L1 are part of the best and the brightest, they are WRONG. Only a small % (probably 20%) are the true best and the brightest and a good 50% will be flushed out. Sorry to say this and hey give me the red dots.



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  • drirshad
    07-30 05:24 AM
    http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5766

    posted 07-24 09:59 AM

    Ron Gotcher has some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.

    More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.

    Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.

    The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.

    Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.

    The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.

    The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.

    This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.

    This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.

    Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.

    I hope this clarifies matters.

    Ron Gotcher





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  • it is ok
    09-23 12:19 PM
    Kudos to person who started this thread. A Brilliant Idea..Minimally, even if it helps few hundred people in couple of years, this is more than worth. I will send mails. Thanks for your untiring efforts in the face of adversity..





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  • rahulpaper
    06-27 10:03 PM
    Isn�t the visa number limited to a upper threshold for each EB category for each country...How does these number move around between various countries....doesn�t that mean people from India and China (2 countries with most retrogression and paranoia) are looking at a very small number (~2K-4K) and not 40K in July?

    Can someone comment on this number issue?


    Yes I agree.. But if they don't move date foward then they can't approve those backlog applications.And they don't want to loose 40,000 visas . Now when they made all date current, they can approve all those pending application which are complete and just waiting for date to become current. Now we don't know real number and don't know how long it will take USCIS to do all approvals. But if they approve 40,000 in 2 weeks, I won't be surprised if they make it 'U' like other workers.

    But then question still remains why they made all current. They could have just moved it by year or so.. And I am sure they know how many application they can expect in July.. I already saw some where that we have around more then 80,000 approved perm.. All they going to apply.. And what about all whose labor just got approved fro Backlog centers?

    Its making everybody confused.. But its not in our hand and we can't do anything. Best thing is to file asap and just hope for best and we are always ready for worst..


    Just think if they make date 'U' in middle of july, how many member going to loose money. Each of us spent so much money this month and if nothing happens that we loose all of it.





    chintu25
    09-24 01:43 PM
    I think we should ..........this would be helpful to their business too.

    EXCELLENT IDEA HERE are some CEO addresses we could send the emails too as well asking for their help



    Biotech
    Monsanto
    Hugh Grant,
    Chief Executive
    hugh.grant@monsanto.com

    Consulting
    Accenture
    Joe Forehand,
    Chief Executive
    joe.w.forehand@accenture.com

    Entertainment
    Disney
    George Mitchell, Chairman
    george.mitchell@piperrudnick.com

    Kodak
    Antonio Perez, CEO
    Antonio.Perez@kodak.com


    Internet
    EBay
    Douglas McCallum,
    Chief Executive Officer
    Douglas.McCallum@ebay.com

    Network Solution
    Champ Mitchell, Chief Executive Officer
    Cmitchell@networksolutions.com

    News
    Bloomberg
    Chief Executive Officer
    Mbloomberg@bloomberg.net

    Last but not the least

    United States
    George Bush
    president@whitehouse.gov
    http://www.whitehouse.gov



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    unseenguy
    06-12 11:26 AM
    Dude... he is talking about the second best engineering college in India that is located in Rajasthan.. aka - BITS Pilani (my guess).

    Still , he only has bachelors degree. BE degree holders are dime a dozen these days. Even I am one of them. You need MBA, MS or PhD to survive or go up in career. Tell me why some MS degree holder with 3.7+ GPA is not more qualified than BITS guys? I have met and rolled over (performed better) than many BITS guys in my career. And I know many guys from my local place did not go to other states or outside for education because their parents would not let them go away for studies. So..... you can find smarter guys in local places as well.

    This is the problem with a lot of guys. They go to some top Indian institution and they think they are all set in life, they are out of the box , extraordinary and people should come and reward them for that.

    No my friend, life is a one day match... you hit couple of sixes , you are ahead in the game, lose couple of wickets , you are fighting for survival. Also see how he is talking down on India despite getting the best opportunity in his life there.....



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