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hulugu
May 5, 01:11 PM
So, what do you call, and how do we handle the individual(s)who planned, and helped to plan the death of 3,000 + individuals on 9/11, the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole, the Bali nightclub bombings, and who knows how many more acts of terrorism?
Can you honestly sit there and tell me that when we have in custody a high profile leader such as K.S.M. who has intricate, first hand knowledge of a terrorist organization that we should not do all that we can to obtain as much information from this person as possible? I suppose your thinking (and those of many others here) is that he should have been given a trial by jury, sent to prison, and that we had no right to try and obtain information from him?
This is a false choice. We can interrogate someone, but we cannot torture them.
Think The Closer rather than 24.
To quote someone else in this thread "show me proof", in terms of actual statements given under duress and the results of that information. Until you or I see that we are both really just hand-waving.
As for the guy in the video, he's really the only one out there that I have seen that is so vocal about the ineffectiveness of E.I. I suspect that he is either someone that:
a) Is just out to make a quick buck off his book;
b) Has a grudge;
c) Has remorse about things that he has done and is trying to make amends.
So, you're going to dismiss the arguments of Matthew Alexander, but readily accept those of people who could be prosecuted for ordering acts of torture? I'd think that John Yoo, for example, would be much less trustworthy than Alexander in these cases.
BTW, if you guys haven't read Marc Thiessen's Courting Disaster, pick it up. He explains that waterboarding was not used to get answers to questions or confessions, but rather to break their will and spirit and get them to agree to start cooperating.
Theissen's attempt to draw this distinction is just a distortion of logic. A person who has been tortured and knows that a moment's hesitation will lead to more torture is physiologically and psychologically different than they were before
Torture changes (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/22/neuroscientist-says-torture-produces-false-memories-and-bad-intel/) the brain and damages memory and 'executive' faculties.
Can you honestly sit there and tell me that when we have in custody a high profile leader such as K.S.M. who has intricate, first hand knowledge of a terrorist organization that we should not do all that we can to obtain as much information from this person as possible? I suppose your thinking (and those of many others here) is that he should have been given a trial by jury, sent to prison, and that we had no right to try and obtain information from him?
This is a false choice. We can interrogate someone, but we cannot torture them.
Think The Closer rather than 24.
To quote someone else in this thread "show me proof", in terms of actual statements given under duress and the results of that information. Until you or I see that we are both really just hand-waving.
As for the guy in the video, he's really the only one out there that I have seen that is so vocal about the ineffectiveness of E.I. I suspect that he is either someone that:
a) Is just out to make a quick buck off his book;
b) Has a grudge;
c) Has remorse about things that he has done and is trying to make amends.
So, you're going to dismiss the arguments of Matthew Alexander, but readily accept those of people who could be prosecuted for ordering acts of torture? I'd think that John Yoo, for example, would be much less trustworthy than Alexander in these cases.
BTW, if you guys haven't read Marc Thiessen's Courting Disaster, pick it up. He explains that waterboarding was not used to get answers to questions or confessions, but rather to break their will and spirit and get them to agree to start cooperating.
Theissen's attempt to draw this distinction is just a distortion of logic. A person who has been tortured and knows that a moment's hesitation will lead to more torture is physiologically and psychologically different than they were before
Torture changes (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/22/neuroscientist-says-torture-produces-false-memories-and-bad-intel/) the brain and damages memory and 'executive' faculties.
JONNYCHO
Oct 5, 11:14 PM
I don't know about you guys but I have Windows/OS X and for the windows part I am falling in love with Opera it is the fastest browser for windows, in is small with tight coding and it doesn't use all your RAM. I hope this comes to mac if it does well that would be the ****
Apple Hero
Dec 4, 03:51 PM
None of these are Holiday related.
upsguy27
Jun 18, 07:30 PM
I'll be there at around 5 AM... maybe earlier depending on when others are coming.
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MattSepeta
Jul 15, 02:28 PM
I wonder if Nuclear Marbles will run on Snow Leopard :p
I bet its a fun play!
I bet its a fun play!
���h�?
Oct 18, 01:56 PM
Nice idea, just needs a funky apple style jazz up.
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OrangeSVTguy
Apr 22, 11:54 PM
I have only been folding with my GPUs since folding the CPU puts off way too much heat. Im hoping to have my air conditioning hooked up soon, it's all free since I work in the sheet metal/hvac trade :p
Wes
Feb 12, 03:13 PM
I hope this doesn't signal the end of edesign's stabs at newbies with comical macros :(.
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alhedges
Mar 25, 08:27 PM
I'd love to see Apple displace Google Maps on their iOS devices. That would be a major blow to Google and a major win for Apple and their iAd product. The more you tie maps into adverts the more personalized those adverts become. The more successful marketing campaigns. Apple can take iAds to the next level. :cool:
This is great way to give the iPhone a single digit market share.
This is great way to give the iPhone a single digit market share.
skunk
Mar 29, 07:42 AM
You do realise it's a piss-take, don't you? An amusing one, though. :)
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7on
Jan 22, 09:59 AM
http://msed.byu.edu/tlsc/theft/
firewood
Apr 14, 04:23 PM
A new iOS update appeared in iTunes today. Does one need to download a new Xcode + SDK (multi-GB .dmg) after installing 4.3.2 on ones iPhone build-and-run apps?
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jubjub
Nov 20, 01:42 PM
My Siemens MC60 is getting pretty old. I really hope they release it before February 9th (my birthday:D ).
Best birthday ever! :)
I'd replace my t610 in 3 seconds flat.
Best birthday ever! :)
I'd replace my t610 in 3 seconds flat.
Hastings101
Apr 1, 04:48 PM
Don't even use Android but I thought the wallpaper was cute :D.
Got it from http://www.wallpaper4me.com/wallpaper/Peek-A-Boo-Droid/
Got it from http://www.wallpaper4me.com/wallpaper/Peek-A-Boo-Droid/
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MacBytes
Sep 16, 11:35 PM
Category: 3rd Party Software
Link: Sybase and OS X in the Enterprise (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040917003534)
Posted on MacBytes.com (http://www.macbytes.com)
Approved by Mudbug
Link: Sybase and OS X in the Enterprise (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040917003534)
Posted on MacBytes.com (http://www.macbytes.com)
Approved by Mudbug
Ciclismo
Apr 25, 05:31 AM
I think there should be an option in the poll for "No thanks, waiting for the iPhone 5" as it can't be that far away.
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leekohler
Apr 15, 07:50 AM
People didn't seem to care about the "gay plague" because it only affected gays. People cared about Ryan White and the Ray brothers, they didn't care about iniquitous obnoxious gays and lesbians.
Wow...just wow. So now you claim to speak for all of society back then? Unbelievable. And please, don't hold back on your feeling regarding us. You keep exposing yourself for what you truly are.
So then they had sex with the person of opposite gender, they adopted or test tube baby.
So what? What is your point?
I have no interest in destroying you, I have no interest in harming you. You imply I want to physically hurt homosexuals, but I do not.
Political harm to me is violence. Do cannot deny that you wish to withhold rights from us.
As with anything in history, there's a right balance and a need for both violence and diplomacy together in order for one group to obtain favorable circumstances...or simply dominate another group. The truth is that humans don't "live in peace". Our whole existance is actually due to the fact that we kill eachother. Otherwise, we would just be like any other lower animal.
Sad, but true. Diplomacy should always be the first approach. But it doesn't always work. I've found out the hard way, believe me.
Wow...just wow. So now you claim to speak for all of society back then? Unbelievable. And please, don't hold back on your feeling regarding us. You keep exposing yourself for what you truly are.
So then they had sex with the person of opposite gender, they adopted or test tube baby.
So what? What is your point?
I have no interest in destroying you, I have no interest in harming you. You imply I want to physically hurt homosexuals, but I do not.
Political harm to me is violence. Do cannot deny that you wish to withhold rights from us.
As with anything in history, there's a right balance and a need for both violence and diplomacy together in order for one group to obtain favorable circumstances...or simply dominate another group. The truth is that humans don't "live in peace". Our whole existance is actually due to the fact that we kill eachother. Otherwise, we would just be like any other lower animal.
Sad, but true. Diplomacy should always be the first approach. But it doesn't always work. I've found out the hard way, believe me.
Chupa Chupa
Apr 28, 07:43 PM
But really, I'm embarrased for Apple & Samsung for these pathetic lawsuits they keep bringing against each other. Money, money, money!
Why? The law requires an rights owner to defend its IP or risk losing it. These suits are just business, no hard feelings, as seen by Apple's monster-sized component contract w/ Samsung. Any yes, business is about making money.
Why? The law requires an rights owner to defend its IP or risk losing it. These suits are just business, no hard feelings, as seen by Apple's monster-sized component contract w/ Samsung. Any yes, business is about making money.
mBurns
Apr 17, 09:59 AM
Hi guys. I have a Snow Leopard disk that I'm trying to use to install Snow Leopard on my aluminum MacBook. I "zero'd out" the drive from the disk and now when I try to install Snow Leopard using the very same disk I continually get a failed to download Snow Leopard after a period of time. I've tried installing S.L. twice now. Any ideas? Should I try zeroing out my disk again incase it's corrupted? Under the "failed to download" it says that necessary support files could not be installed.
Any ideas? I really want OS X on this machine again... :/
Any ideas? I really want OS X on this machine again... :/
OneMike
Apr 4, 10:29 AM
If anything I'm seeing that this will push resale value of iPhones up.
Of course it sucks, but I don't upgrade early so unless they increase the non early upgrade costs this won't apply to a lot of us.
Of course it sucks, but I don't upgrade early so unless they increase the non early upgrade costs this won't apply to a lot of us.
Superdrive
Oct 5, 07:14 PM
How do we know that the extendable text box might not become an overlay of the page that wouldn't damage the design? As you tab out or deactivate the box, it shrinks back to size. I'm sure this design has been thought through more in Cupertino than most people have spent here in the past hour.
rprebel
Oct 7, 10:09 PM
just changed mine,going to keep it for long :)
Cool. Great use of GT.:)
Cool. Great use of GT.:)
mayflower232
Apr 30, 07:36 PM
Castle is the name of a new service that Apple are going to offer which focuses around location tracking and security. It is a stand-alone feature whereby you can keep track of all your devices and who is using them.
TuffLuffJimmy
Mar 18, 03:29 PM
I know right? Christians are totally equivalent in women's clothing to Muslims. I mean, asking for the skirts to be to their knees, for them to not see midriff, or parts of the breast is totally equivalent to making the wear burkhas. And then there is the audacity to ask for them to not be exposed to butt crack on the beach, simply appalling their curtailing of freedom!
Do you not see how interpretation of what is reasonable is relative? In some cultures women wear long skirts because it's considered promiscuous to show too much leg, yet they also walk around topless.
To suggest that Christians are less oppressive toward women than Muslims is pretty misinformed.
Do you not see how interpretation of what is reasonable is relative? In some cultures women wear long skirts because it's considered promiscuous to show too much leg, yet they also walk around topless.
To suggest that Christians are less oppressive toward women than Muslims is pretty misinformed.
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